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Wednesday, 30 September 2015

Turning sour

Never mind the nuclear deterrent thingy for now. What I'm more intrigued by here is :

"Following the shadow cabinet criticism of his comments, Mr Corbyn was asked by the BBC's John Pienaar what the point of the Labour defence policy debate and review was. He said: "The point of a policy debate is to try and bring people with me."

Eh ? What happened to a new way of doing politics ? Or is there missing context to the quote ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34399565

6 comments:

  1. Uhm, that doesn't sound like he's abandoning a new way of doing politics.  Everyone in a debate is trying to bring others along with them, but they might end up being brought along by others.

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  2. It is a foolhardy thing to say, and worse as a policy.  Since he certainly would use if there were no other choice, it will not be his or anyone else's true policy; so to proclaim it is is illogical and potentially dangerous.  Fortunately, the situation will certainly never come about, so it's also moot.

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  3. Jordan Henderson Hmm, yes, you're right. The word "try" is very important. "Try and establish consensus" would have been better though. It doesn't quite sit right when the party leader says the purpose of debate is to try and get things his way, especially after calling for more bottom-up politics.

    However I'm willing to believe this is only a minor linguistic misunderstanding, because I still want to give the guy a hug.

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  4. Rhys Taylor Perhaps, but it seems like a quibble.  

    "Try and get things his way" is not the same as "try and bring people with him."  That might be accomplished by moving in their direction.

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  5. Well, being cynical about politicians does tend to be a matter of common sense. :) Especially ones who seem too good to be true.

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  6. David Strumfels In what circumstances, exactly, would you envisage there being "no other choice" than to kill everyone in the world?

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