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Wednesday, 21 September 2016

Labour's next leader : the next crisis ?

This is quite likely to result in the next major crisis in British politics. Oh, yippee.

Voting has closed in Labour's leadership contest after Jeremy Corbyn and Owen Smith made their final pitches for support. A total of 640,000 people were eligible to vote, an increase of more than 80,000 from the 2015 contest. The result will be announced in Liverpool on Saturday.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37422696

10 comments:

  1. You mean, if Corbyn again wins, so that the Blairite traitors will continue their obstructionism?

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  2. Or Smith wins, and the subset of Corbyn supporters who don't put humans before symbols try to do the same.

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  3. Dave Higgins The Blairites are the only ones in a position to do obstruction. Corbyn only has the membership, and who cares about them, right?

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  4. That's defeatist, Andreas Geisler. From what I've seen of political activists, anyone has the ability to make an utter counter-productive shit of themselves.

    So, I think both sides should stop thinking about themselves and start thinking about us all.

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  5. My take : Corbyn doesn't have the confidence of his own MPs. He lost an no-confidence vote overwhelmingly. Therefore he cannot form a credible opposition, let alone a credible opposition. The only honourable thing to do would have been to resign. That he didn't destroys his reputation as a man of principle, IMHO.

    It's way too simple to reduce things to Blairites and Corbynites.

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  6. Rhys Taylor That's because his MPs are overwhelmingly Blairists. If the membership supports someone that the MPs don't want to work with, it's really the MPs who have the problem.

    If Corbyn wins, that is a vote of no confidence, by the membership, of the entire parliamentary bloc.

    A popular mandate always beats an in-group mandate.

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  7. Andreas Geisler Those MPs are democratically elected every bit as much as Corbyn is. The fault is that there's a huge selection effect in Labour party membership, which is not reflected come general election day. If Corbyn wins, that just means he's popular with activists. It doesn't magically make him a better leader and it won't give his MPs confidence to work with him. It's very plausible it would split the party, hence precipitating the next major political crisis.

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  8. Rhys Taylor But please recall that Blair was wrong about every damn thing, and all his cultists need to be purged. ;)

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  9. Or to put it another way, if the voters elect a body with one set of interests (Blairites or not) and a leader who's strongly opposed to many of those interests, it's a right mess.

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  10. it's a right mess That can certainly be agreed on.

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