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Monday, 11 December 2017

Oops, the wheels have fallen off again

Earlier, the EU said that although the agreement was not strictly legally binding, the two sides had "shaken hands" on it with a "gentleman's agreement" between David Davis and Michel Barnier. On Sunday the Brexit Secretary David Davis said guarantees on the Northern Ireland border were not legally binding unless the two sides reached a final deal. But he told LBC Radio on Monday they would be honoured whatever happened.

For about 35 minutes the other day, I might have actually given this [deal] some credence (or to be strictly accurate I would have said the news is "not disastrous", which counts as good news in the current political state of the world). But then Davis and Gove both said that we can undo the deal in various ways before we even enter into the real stage of proceedings. The whole thing has already fallen off the cliff edge, they just don't seem to realise it yet.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42303059

9 comments:

  1. If it wasn't so bloody awful watching the destruction of the country by fools, on behalf of bastards, listening to May telling us about her absurd beliefs would be funny. Funny like broken bones, and stuff.

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  2. I'm sure it's a complete farce if you're disconnected enough from it, but for everyone closer in it's a tragedy.

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  3. "I would like to take this opportunity to confirm that the building is on fire. The good news being that there is liquid soap available in the lavatories."

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  4. Seen from far away, also seen from the perspective of decades of watching idiots making grandiose plans - I see a measure of hope, if you do not. And it's understandable that you might not. Trust ol' Dan here, there's this bit of Friedrich Engels, where he lays out why idealism shall always fail, for theories never make it off the page intact. Only by analysis of present conditions can anyone begin to postulate how those conditions might be improved.

    The Brexiteers are at heart idealists. There's not an iota of realism or considered thought in anything they've done to this point. In this, they're rather like religious fanatics, attempting to return to some idyllic past which never was. And, may I add parenthetically, never could be. All this fatuous Happy Talk about Good News is contemptible. Brexit will fail, horribly, mark my words. Those whom the gods would destroy, to them do they grant wishes, literally and immediately.

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  5. Dan Weese Would that that were so. The wheels falling off the clown car is certainly the best hope of bringing the comedy to an end before it does any real damage. The EU is not a angel; it won't care much about Britain if she shoots herself in the kneecaps.

    Yet the idealism of Brexiteers... I have my doubts. Many of them are, perhaps... the ones behind the scenes, at least. But Johnson ? His hour-long documentary rabidly praising the virtues of the EU while campaigning for Turkish entry demonstrates that he's a pure populist, and these days rapidly sinking into the brand of unpopular populists that seems to be in vogue. Gove ? The man-child hasn't got the intellectual capacity to have an idea. Davis ? I'd have believed that until I found this :
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/+RhysTaylorRhysy/posts/C7Cxz8jBVZX

    What about Nigel ? That toad feels no compunction about working to bring down the EU yet claim a salary and pension from it. The only ideal I think he really believes in is his own glorification.

    Which leaves only Mogg. Horrible little man, but he might actually genuinely believe in something other than himself.

    No, the Brexiteers are for the most part of a bunch of not misguided but high-minded idealists, but of vile little idiots struggling to cope with basic reasoning. It's a miracle they've lasted this long. And as Pratchett said, "just because it isn't nice doesn't mean it's not a miracle".

    [Shuffles off, muttering things about the War and spitting at random passers-by]

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  6. Rhys Taylor ... any response to that will require some thought. Expect more soon. I'll say this now, though: conduct a thought experiment. Let's agree the Brexiteers are vile idiots, incapable of basic reasoning. Yet I believe, alongside their parlous lunacy is a streak of wishful thinking and the bumph to match. The two can co-exist.

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  7. Dan Weese As the old saying goes, "Those mindless vandals can do some real damage when they put their minds to it."

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  8. Rhys Taylor Weese's Axiom of Immensities: the truly gargantuan fuckups are the work of many hands.

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  9. Rhys Taylor bravo. Carry on with the shuffling.

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