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Sunday, 2 December 2018

Stopping racism is possible but extremely difficult

Emotions are weird, irrational things. Can you really be said to hate something if you hate yourself for hating it ? Do you really hate something if your emotion is a conditioned response ? I don't know, however, for a practical demonstration of using conditioned responses (and other tactics) to overcome hatred, see :
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+RhysTaylorRhysy/posts/dgjzJEy2nQF
Albeit that uses highly controlled tactics that are simply not possible to reproduce on larger scales (and it's a sample of one, with all the major caveats that implies). Hence this real-world observational study is much more ambiguous. And you cannot simply talk people out of ideologies. If there's anything that can break ideology, it's a visceral, emotive experience, not someone lecturing you.

The goal of stopping hate and helping former white supremacists lead more virtuous lives is certainly well intentioned, but there is reason to doubt the effectiveness of any initiative’s methods to reverse racism. Life After Hate, which formed as a nonprofit in 2011 and claims more than 30,000 supporters, says it has helped more than 100 people conquer their biases. Ending racism, it turns out, isn’t as simple as cutting personal ties or deciding to stop hating certain groups of people.

Shannon Brown, for example, admits that there are still things that “trigger” her prejudices: gay people, black people who listen to loud rap music, multiracial families. Something might set her off, and “I just trigger into that indoctrinated kind of mindset,” Brown said, her brain calling forth a racial slur, even though she knows that such thoughts are wrong. “I might just see something like an interracial couple, and it’ll flip and then flip back real fast,” Brown said. “Sometimes I can control it, and sometimes it’s just on impulse".

Fighting the hatred inside her head can be exhausting, Brown said. Sometimes it’s just easier to let her old racist mindset reassert control. “Even 20 years later, it’ll flip the switch,” Brown said. “And it sounds terrible to say it, but it actually feels good.”

According to research by Peter Simi, most former white supremacists do not experience a sudden change of heart. In fact, moral reasons fall to the bottom of the list. Instead, as was the case with Shannon Brown, the decision to leave a hate group is almost always driven by a personal stimulus: a social or family feud, a divorce, an abusive relationship, a split between rival factions, a public shaming, a run-in with the legal system. The choice is rarely brought on by empathy for people they have been conditioned to despise.

Counseling former extremists about their childhood, as a treatment method on its own, will not work. Simply exposing them to diverse people won’t do the job either. Any solution will be more complex, because hate is more complex. It’s a socially, historically, and institutionally bred behaviour that embeds in the psyche. Solving the problem is not a matter of just getting someone to leave a hate group. Hate and racism become part of their core identity, Simi said, and for many who leave hate behind socially, abandoning it psychologically is a much harder process.

https://newrepublic.com/article/152299/white-supremacists-learn-hate

13 comments:

  1. We only hate what we see in ourselves. It's a valuable clue to discovering those things. But some are very difficult to realize and own.

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  2. Can we all unlearn hatred and fear? A very important question for the survival of our species.

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  3. What we can do as a society is make it unacceptable to be racist, triggering more to begin the journey, and probably more importantly making it harder to become. This is ultimately why punching nazis is good.

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  4. Andres Soolo I know, I rejected it vehemently upon first hearing it, but after 40 years it has proven itself countless times. The best proof will be your own studies.

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  5. I found this potentially very interesting, especially the bit about treating phobias that starts at 4:30 :
    youtube.com - Nova Reconsolidation Memory Hackers

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  6. Bill Stender It's a tough sell. It's hard to see victims of crimes hating the criminals because they perceive themselves as being similar, for example. Self knowledge and self perception also seem to be subject to the same flaws and inaccuracies as other forms of knowledge and perception.

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  7. I know Rhys Taylor . Perhaps it is similar to the fact that we dont see external things until we have built a mental construction, 'named' them. We can only speak for ourselves in this, what specifically is generating one's anger and how it specifically relates to what is as yet unnamed, unseen. It isnt as easy as a hating say, a rapist, and that means you too must be a rapist down deep inside.
    But that's a hard one, start with easy puzzles like; "that person tapping their pencil is driving me fucking crazy"..."why can't people be more considerate of people around them?"
    Indeed, self-perception is probably the least accurate part of anyone's awareness:)

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  8. Bill Stender: You remember that old bullshit story about how Columbian ships were invisible to the Indians because they hadn't seen any big ships before?

    Well, it's bullshit.

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  9. I really push your buttons don't I Andres Soolo? ;>

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  10. Bill Stender У меня такие большие кнопки.

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  11. I get that people will be hypocrites : thieves will hate people who steal from them, rapists will hate people who rape them, pencil-tappers will hate other pencil-tappers. What I don't get is the idea that this only happens because they "see those things in themselves". I think there will be little or no correlation on that front; it is equally possible to hate being wronged precisely because one is innocent.

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  12. Racism is everywhere. It might have a genetic component. Mother nature tends to select for behaviors that have adaptive value. Maybe racism is a method for noise reduction (life is very noisy), or maybe to preserve your own genotype by preventing inter-racial dilution.

    On the face of it, religion doesn't make sense either until you look at it from an evolutionary perspective.

    Take a look at this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism

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